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	<title>Comments on: discuss: debating politics</title>
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		<title>By: PCEevee</title>
		<link>http://zamagazine.org/blog/discuss/discuss-debating-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, you got me there. We do have to live in the world and not distance ourselves from it (though not live like the world), so that does involve saying worldly things, though we shouldn't ever forget the cross. 

But I will ask how people can feel passionate about the political subjects that you mentioned if they are focused on God. Maybe it's just with me, but I actually was going to say in my first comment that said that there was a (possibly related) negative correlation between interest in politics and interest in Jesus.  I feel that Jesus can cause change in people, much more than being in politics (though I'm not saying that politics can't change people, just maybe not that inspiring due to control outside of ordinary humans). It's kind of hard to explain, in my opinion.

Though if they do feel passionate about said subjects, then as long as they have spent time asking God about it, then they can promote it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, you got me there. We do have to live in the world and not distance ourselves from it (though not live like the world), so that does involve saying worldly things, though we shouldn&#8217;t ever forget the cross. </p>
<p>But I will ask how people can feel passionate about the political subjects that you mentioned if they are focused on God. Maybe it&#8217;s just with me, but I actually was going to say in my first comment that said that there was a (possibly related) negative correlation between interest in politics and interest in Jesus.  I feel that Jesus can cause change in people, much more than being in politics (though I&#8217;m not saying that politics can&#8217;t change people, just maybe not that inspiring due to control outside of ordinary humans). It&#8217;s kind of hard to explain, in my opinion.</p>
<p>Though if they do feel passionate about said subjects, then as long as they have spent time asking God about it, then they can promote it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Berkley</title>
		<link>http://zamagazine.org/blog/discuss/discuss-debating-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Berkley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a good point. Jesus never called us to have all the answers in an apologetics debate; He only called us to spread the Word. Now I'm not knocking apologetics as there is certainly a place for it, but it's not required to say that Jesus died for your sins. 

Just to play devil's advocate, PCEevee, how should a Christian engage a subject such as, say, taxation of the wealthy or the USA PATRIOT Act? Things that may not be blatantly related to our faith but we feel passionately about? Should we accept our rights being limited for the sake of fighting terrorism or should we look at it apathetically because, rights or not, our mission as Christians remains the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point. Jesus never called us to have all the answers in an apologetics debate; He only called us to spread the Word. Now I&#8217;m not knocking apologetics as there is certainly a place for it, but it&#8217;s not required to say that Jesus died for your sins. </p>
<p>Just to play devil&#8217;s advocate, PCEevee, how should a Christian engage a subject such as, say, taxation of the wealthy or the USA PATRIOT Act? Things that may not be blatantly related to our faith but we feel passionately about? Should we accept our rights being limited for the sake of fighting terrorism or should we look at it apathetically because, rights or not, our mission as Christians remains the same?</p>
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		<title>By: PCEevee</title>
		<link>http://zamagazine.org/blog/discuss/discuss-debating-politics/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do recommend participating in politics, since we are called to promote Jesus. I will agree that it is bad to get angry when discussing anything but religion for the reasons and the article mentioned above.

But I will go so far as to include that it can be extended into arguing about religion. Donald Miller writes in &lt;i&gt;Blue Like Jazz&lt;/i&gt; that "sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don't believe in God and they can prove that He doesn't exist, and some other guys who do believe in God and can prove that He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it's about who is smarter."

I was rather intrigued by what was written there. How can it be wrong to argue about the existence of God? My answer would be when it's not about the cross. &lt;b&gt;If you are discussing something just to promote yourself and your ideas, and not Jesus, then it should not be discussed.&lt;/b&gt; Sure, a conversation can start with good intentions. But if you're forgotten the true meaning of life on Earth, then you're just living like the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do recommend participating in politics, since we are called to promote Jesus. I will agree that it is bad to get angry when discussing anything but religion for the reasons and the article mentioned above.</p>
<p>But I will go so far as to include that it can be extended into arguing about religion. Donald Miller writes in <i>Blue Like Jazz</i> that &#8220;sooner or later you just figure out there are some guys who don&#8217;t believe in God and they can prove that He doesn&#8217;t exist, and some other guys who do believe in God and can prove that He does exist, and the argument stopped being about God a long time ago and now it&#8217;s about who is smarter.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was rather intrigued by what was written there. How can it be wrong to argue about the existence of God? My answer would be when it&#8217;s not about the cross. <b>If you are discussing something just to promote yourself and your ideas, and not Jesus, then it should not be discussed.</b> Sure, a conversation can start with good intentions. But if you&#8217;re forgotten the true meaning of life on Earth, then you&#8217;re just living like the world.</p>
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