The link I provided in the post shows one example of how statements can be taken out of context or falsified. I found another one on my own; people attribute the quote “Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated” to Sanger from a book called “The Pivot of Civilization.” I found an online copy of the book (public domain; search Google for it) and tried to find the quote and could not do so.

I think that we as Christians have absolute Truth on our side; we don’t need to resort to half-truths and I think it’s good to research our claims where possible. All arguments aside, I hope that’s something we can agree on.

Isn’t that what is happening to the aborted babies. None of them choose to be killed. They had no say in the matter, they were forcibly taken away against their will.

First of all good site Brendino!

Secondly, I think Jon hit it right on the head about PP. I think it’s clear that they do target the underprivelidged and minorities. Here’s how the black Christian community has been responding to that:
http://www.osv.com/OSVNav/OSVNewsweeklyMay252008/Blackpastorsusepulpittofightabortion/tabid/6067/Default.aspx

And here’s my friend’s analysis of Sanger’s distorted mindset. http://www.withfortitude.blogspot.com/

Both of these sites don’t hesitate to expose the “dark side” of PP, and for good reason. Sanger - although perhaps not associated with Hitler and Nazism, and racist debate aside - obviously was pushing something evil and degrading to people. That legacy still lives on, both in terms of the availability of abortions and the pushing of artificial contraception.

Eugenics does not happen when people come to you. The Jews didn’t go to the camps with the intention of making the Aryan race more pure; rather, they were forcibly taken there against their will.

No one makes a woman go to a clinic and kill her child. Perhaps the sex ed in high school told her it was okay, and perhaps the appearance of more clinics lends itself to more abortions, but all the propaganda in the world wouldn’t have made the Jews submit themselves to a concentration camp for the sake of a better society.

And, moldytoaster, as for your latest comment, that’s a tough stat to analyze. Are the abortions happening because of the clinics, or are the clinics happening because of the abortions? Economists would lean towards the latter; supply generally accommodates demand.

Finally, I’m all about sharing ideas and debating them. But starting the conversation by demeaning the organization by calling them racist eugenicists might not be the best way to go about it. That’s the point of my post.

Do I think illegal drugs like narcotics are bad? Yes. Do I think people should not take them? Yes. If I met with a person who regularly takes drugs, would I try to persuade him or her to stop taking them? Yes. If I had the ability to stop every person from taking drugs, would I use it? No, mostly due to God allowing that person the free will to make decisions with the hope that the person would turn towards Him when given the choice.

I’ll give it some time before I weigh in some more…see if anyone else has anything to say.

haha, my comments weren’t showing up, so i kept on retyping pretty much the same thing. Now there all showing up.

If a planned parenthood clinic opened in a primarily black neighborhood or town. Then i don’t think it would matter if the people who worked there new who Margaret was or not. The question is if the executives, are practicing eugenics or not.

I don’t know if planned parent hood is trying to kill specific groups or not, but if the creator of the group, and the members believe it that strongly, then I don’t see any problem with it.

The facebook group has comments enabled, and there have been almost 150 comments. So I guess it is good that it gets people debating, and sharing ideas.

Whether eugenics is taking place there now or not, it sounds like Margaret Sanger wasn’t a great person.